Do I believe Atheists are going to hell?

[GrandizerII]

Short answer: no.

Long answer: 


Any human who when the truth is presented and has a way out of the darkness and perceives it but denies it after God's proof is settled, then yes, they belong to hell.

If words can decisively prove a Creator there would be no need of religion. Religion has a Guide, paradigms to act upon while searching it, and love has many interpretations.

I see humans as they outwardly appear so it's inwardly like that.


Most people are not so beautiful nor so ugly, but just good looking to the extent they should be satisfied with how they look.

The same is true pertaining to truth seeking. Most won't go the ends of the earth is search of knowledge of the self and most can't even if they wanted to.

However most when truth becomes apparent to them accept.

I believe most humans are dishonest with themselves, I believe to a great degree I deceive myself as well.


But when things are proven in the way God proves firmly beyond doubt, then truth, is no longer veiled, then some nations most believed and many nations disbelieved, and of the nations mentioned in Quran, it's only people of Yonus who benefited from their faith.

The Israelites believed but then turned the message into meaningless stories when they rejected Mohammad and the Mastership of Ali and their family.


I get frustrated but I am not the doctor to cure you, nor have I placed in the right way.

I don't believe I have established the proof despite knowing by arguments are both valid and sound. The premises they rest upon do need more elaboration which I have not done.


Give me time and I will come back after sometime, as a better communicator. I will prove the premises you dispute about in a better way.

I believe we all are dishonest in many levels, we deceive ourselves, the greatest degree is I believe what Atheists find themselves in, where they convince themselves they have no knowledge of God.

But the proof of God is a healing and healer, it cures the dishonesty and sets the world back in proper balanced order, set's your soul in it's proper image, not the mirror inverted backwards image of falsehood and lies of Iblis.

I can't prove all this stuff because I don't know what you really know and what you don't. It makes sense to me, is all I can assure you of.


We will however to move forward have to have a more serious conversation. We all have to be more serious. Less battle of egos and more serious to the discussions.

No, don't come back trying to be "better". Just accept that you will never be able to convince us that you're right and we're wrong, since most of us have given the various theistic arguments some deep thinking and already made up our minds about them. And you're not, and will not ever be, saying anything new that we've never heard of.

You're always free to have a debate with any of us, but just know most of us skeptical and critical thinking atheists are in our current thinking for good intellectual reasons, and it's going to take a whole lot more than just words to prove to us that some god of the caliber you worship exists. Something you're just not capable of doing on an online forum, if at all IRL.