(January 29, 2018 at 9:19 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:I need to cite a thing:(January 28, 2018 at 12:48 pm)shadow Wrote: You're quite secular for a Catholic, CL
I really don't know how you can get that where ever there is "love and goodness", there is god. God is supposed to be everywhere, right? Including all awful places, and allowing all awful things to occur. Once again, your conception of god is not your understanding of morality.
If, in your view, a good portion of the Catholics aren't moral and therefore aren't going to heaven, and a good portion of the atheists and members of other religions are moral and are going to heaven, there is no correlation between heaven and religion. So what, then, is the role of the Catholic Church?
Lol the notion that God is love is a Christian thing, not a secular thing. 😉
The Catholic Church never said that "God is love" until the angry masses in Europe have cut its wings; led by secular philosophers. It was a massacre for priests who terrorized the local populations for decades for the sake of kings.
Not forgetting the terrorizing of foreign countries by issuing "Christian Jihadi Fatwas to issue the Crusades". Which involved crimes such as...cannibalism and mass murder.
The concept of "Love" and the way it became involved in the policies of the world, is a secular trademark; see here:
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Denis_Diderot
Quote:It has been said that love robs those who have it of their wit, and gives it to those who have none. -Denis Diderot
Secular Philosophers like Diderot made the "love thing" viral. The Church on the other hand, got it's wings cut and its former glory crushed by the illumination waves, until it forcefully carried the notion to survive.
As a side note; the same experience is taking place in Arabia now with Islamic sects being attacked. But with Arabs, the religious suck, the secular suck, everything suck.