(January 30, 2018 at 4:34 pm)SteveII Wrote:(January 30, 2018 at 4:09 pm)Astreja Wrote: No, that doesn't necessarily follow. A perfect being should be capable of at least seeing an imperfect being's point of view and able to lead that party closer to an acceptable state. Your argument just makes your god sound fragile and petty.
I don't know where you got that point, but my God went the extra mile and actually walked in our shoes for 33 years with exact intention (and more) that you asked for.
No, I don't think that actually happened. Even if it did happen, though, it still doesn't address my major objections to the Christian message and the reasons that I personally cannot accept it. I'm quite happy to put Matthew 25:35-40 into practice when I can, but I am incapable of generating religious faith and cannot transcend the utter horror and disgust I feel towards the "accept Jesus or go to hell" message.
(January 30, 2018 at 4:34 pm)SteveII Wrote:Astreja Wrote:I've been aware of Christianity for over fifty years. If anything, it makes even less sense than when I was first exposed to it.
Those "2 millennium [sic]" and "billions of hours of thought" are no help at all, as Christian theology doesn't come even remotely close to lining up with the reality that I'm aware of. I've probably heard the best apologetic arguments dozens of times in the last decade or so, and from my POV the lot of you are just whistling in a big, noisy graveyard of stillborn ideas and wishful thinking.
Listen, I enjoy having a respectful conversation, so don't take this the wrong way. The points/concerns in your objections prove that you do not fully understand the doctrines that you are objecting to. That is my point. These are not one-liner type beliefs that can be dismissed with a sentence or two. Christianity is one of the most examined bodies of knowledge in the history of the world. There are thorough answers to every objection ever conceived. They might not all be convincing to all people, but they are not going to be dismantled in a sentence or two.
Yes, there are indeed answers. Too many answers, IMO, and most of them sound like post hoc rationalization to me. The doctrines that have been built up around Christianity are insanely complicated, and as far as I can tell none of them go beyond philosophical hypotheses or Biblical hermaneutics anyway.
