(January 31, 2018 at 5:21 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:(January 31, 2018 at 1:59 pm)SteveII Wrote: Did god “give”—
And, more to your point; yes he did give an advantage when he consciously decided to make the world exactly as it is, knowing how things would shake out. Your ad-hoc rationalizations to the effect of, ‘god couldn’t have done better, and couldn’t do anything differently,’ are exactly that: Rationalizations, in the face of an obviously unjust system created by a supposed ‘perfectly just’ entity.
No, I am sure the are near infinite worlds he could have created. You would have to show that the world that he did choose to create was not the one with the most overall good given that humans have free will. No rationalization needed. No counter argument will hold up.
Quote:Out one side of your mouth you claim god’s glory is incomprehensible to the human mind; how dare we question something we can’t fully understand in this life? But, out of the other side, you claim to know every motive, every detail of his divine attributes, what type of creation would be the best to god, and the ceiling of his capabilities. Conveniently for theists, either philosophy can be employed to effectively wiggle out of inconsistencies and moral objections, depending on which one we happen to be discussing at the moment. Look how that works out!
I didn't make any such statements about God being incomprehensible in this thread (or in any other I can remember) so any claims of inconsistency are imagined. The fact that you are literally complaining that I have a well-formed arguments with philosophical underpinnings is amusing.