Do I believe Atheists are going to hell?

[Catholic_Lady]

I don't see why a 'savior' is required.

See, CL, this is what an 'honest mistake" looks like. He isn't rejecting any specific doctrine or belief system. He will not recognize the need for redemption in himself, thus he rejects, out of hand, any offer of salvation made known to him even in the abstract. Now I put it to you, CL, on what basis does such an individual claim to be good? Compared to what?

Does feeling remorse for wrongdoings, acknowledging that you are not perfect, and wanting to be better, in and of itself, count as some sort of recognition of the need for redemption? I mean, even if the person is atheist and in discussion they say "I don't need a savior...", this doesn't necessarily mean they see themselves as perfect beings who don't see a constant need for improvement in themselves.

...I dunno... I'm just trying to say that it could be possible and may not be so black and white.

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Neo, what I always think of is when Jesus was hanging on the cross, He said "Father, forgive them, they know not what they do." ... And He was saying this about people who spit on Him, beat Him to a pulp, and nailed Him to a cross to die in agony. What worse offense is there than that? I'm not saying Jesus' killers went to Heaven, I'm sure that depends on a lot more. But my point is His great mercy was shown here when He pointed out that those people weren't aware of or understand what exactly they were doing, and for that, He showed them mercy.

(And before anyone jumps down my throat, I'm not comparing atheists to killers lol. That wasnt my point)