RE: Consciousness causes higher entropy compared to unconscious states in the human brain
January 31, 2018 at 9:45 pm
(This post was last modified: January 31, 2018 at 10:12 pm by uncool.)
(January 31, 2018 at 9:33 pm)Succubus Wrote:(January 31, 2018 at 8:08 pm)uncool Wrote: No, I showed your point to be irrelevant. Recall that my initial words were that the AGI (which is not yet here) will be more powerful than the human mind.See above.
This is why your point was irrelevant, it doesn't alter the validity of the words underlined in the OP, or contribute anything novel to the topic at hand.
Yes, you clearly stated an irrelevant response earlier.
Based on the instance that I underlined in the OP that AGI (that will reasonably be more powerful than the human brain) is not yet here, what do you suppose the value of your comment on page one was?
Do you feel that your earlier comment on page one contributed something novel to my AGI/brain power remark in the OP?
(January 31, 2018 at 9:35 pm)Hammy Wrote:(January 31, 2018 at 9:14 am)polymath257 Wrote: There have been studies that show that doing *less* work is more the key to intelligence than doing more.
No wonder I'm such a fucking genius.
That especially makes no sense, for example compared to chimps per body mass, humans have more neuronal interactions in the brain (aka more work is done), and those extra interactions have given rise to science and technology by human brains.
- Reference-A: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_an...of_neurons
- Reference-B: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain-to-body_mass_ratio
(January 31, 2018 at 9:42 pm)Grandizer Wrote:(January 31, 2018 at 8:08 pm)uncool Wrote: People may not want to "kudos" my response, and instead kudos your false responses, but we also know scientific evidence doesn't care about peoples feelings!
You seem sincere and know what you're talking about, but I won't kudos either you or polymath if I have no idea what you two are arguing about and who's right or wrong.
That said, I wouldn't be surprised if consciousness causes higher entropy than unconscious states in the brain. It does seem intuitive to me, but that's just at first glance.
Your intuition regarding entropy, consciousness and unconsciousness is reasonable. (Your intuition is also supported by evidence by the paper in question from the OP, and by other things related to the laws of thermodynamics).
- Here's a more recent paper (also peer reviewed) on the matter, by the same authors: Measures of entropy and complexity in altered states of consciousness
- Edit: The peer reviewed copy appears to be pay-walled. Here is a freely available version: https://arxiv.org/abs/1701.07061
