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The Trinity Doctrine: Help me out, Christians
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RE: The Trinity Doctrine: Help me out, Christians
(February 1, 2018 at 8:50 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:
(February 1, 2018 at 8:20 am)Grandizer Wrote: If you mean equivocation of Person with Being, that doesn't matter here, because nowhere in the equation is there reference to either. You agree that F = G, right? You agree that S = G, right? You agree that H = G, right? Therefore, F = S = H. Nothing in that equal symbol says anything about Person vs. Being. It just means simply that one side of the equation equals the other.

Huggy, that's fine. You're not a Trinitarian, so it's a waste of time arguing about something neither you nor I believe in. You can make a new thread for what you're arguing about.

You seem to be determined to pull a bait and switch here. If you make your full argument, then the answer is that you are not talking about the same thing in the same way. Therefore not a contradiction. You are not showing this in your equation.

The usual vague RR tactic. Why am I not surprised?

Let's see if I can get you to elaborate on what it means to be a Person of God. What is the Father with respect to God? Suppose that F stands for the Father, and G stands for God.

Is the Father just a state/version/mode/aspect of God? If so, then you don't agree that F = G. Instead of the equality symbol, it should be something else that represents that sort of relationship.

Is the Father just a part/component of God? If so, then you don't agree that F = G. Instead, F is an element of G would be more like it.

But if you agree the Father is fully God himself, the one and only God, then you must agree that F = G.

If you're a Trinitarian, you have to concede F = G, S (Son) = G, and H (Holy Spirit) = G.

And because F = G, S = G, and H = G, then F = S = H, necessarily. Yet, according to the Trinity, this is not the case. According to the doctrine, F != S, F != H, and S != H, even though the premises necessarily lead to F = S = H.

So there is a logical problem, and it's sad that you refuse to see that.
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Messages In This Thread
The Trinity Doctrine: Help me out, Christians - by Grandizer - January 31, 2018 at 12:52 pm
RE: The Trinity Doctrine: Help me out, Christians - by Grandizer - February 1, 2018 at 9:15 am
RE: The Trinity Doctrine: Help me out, Christians - by Drich - February 7, 2018 at 10:33 am
RE: The Trinity Doctrine: Help me out, Christians - by Drich - February 7, 2018 at 5:57 pm
RE: The Trinity Doctrine: Help me out, Christians - by Drich - February 8, 2018 at 2:26 pm
RE: The Trinity Doctrine: Help me out, Christians - by Drich - February 9, 2018 at 10:09 am
RE: The Trinity Doctrine: Help me out, Christians - by Drich - February 9, 2018 at 10:36 am

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