(February 1, 2018 at 5:56 pm)pocaracas Wrote:(February 1, 2018 at 5:17 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: As human beings, it is our advanced brains that allow us to make moral choices, aka - have moral free will. If we didnt, we would be no different from apes, psychologically. We have the ability to rationalize, to love, and to experience joy in a way that the other creatures do not, and with that, the ability to understand right from wrong and to choose which way to go. If we didn't have moral free will, we would just be another species of monkey.
I guess I don't get how some folks can't see the value in having free will, and would prefer us not have it...
I'd wager that apes can love and, to some extent, rationalize the world around them...
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Lol, I knew someone would come back with examples and be like "See?? Animals can love/rationalize/be happy too!"
But seriously. You know I love you Poca but I think you're being obtuse.
Anyway, I wrote: "We have the ability to rationalize, to love, and to experience joy in a way that the other creatures do not"
...Not to say they don't at all (I have 7 cats, I know lol), but not nearly to our extent.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh
