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Arguments for God Fail Specific Religions
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Arguments for God Fail Specific Religions
I was thinking about this after a conversation with a christian I had yesterday, and after finishing a book called "Irreligion" by a mathematician about how there are no persuasive arguments for the existence of god.

Here's what I discovered :p

There are many arguments for the existence of a god, such as:

- the argument from first cause.
- the argument from design.
- the argument from the anthropic principle.
- the ontological argument.
- the argument from coincidence.

And so on...

What I realised is that not one of these arguments is relevant when discussing a specific religion, for example Christianity.

Take the argument from first cause. Even if one is persuaded by the argument and concludes that god exists, he is still left with the problem of the identity of this god. All these arguments can only conclude that a god exists; they do nothing as to identifying which specific god it is of which specific religion.

When a christian uses one of these arguments (or any member of a specific religion with a specific god), he is in the end doing absolutely nothing to back up his faith in his specific god. He is making a rather different argument, simply that god exists, but that in the end, he is unknowable.

For christianity to be true, there are only two arguments which can be made:

First Argument - Jesus
  1. Jesus really existed and he lived, died and rose from the dead.
  2. Only god could rise from the dead.
  3. Therefore Jesus was god.
Second Argument - The Bible
  1. By way of demonstrable proof, the bible is 100% consistent, reliable and relevant and is undeniably the greatest book ever written.
  2. Therefore the bible is divinely inspired.
  3. The bible says god exists.
  4. Therefore god exists.
If it can be proven that Jesus did not exist or at the very least, did not rise from the dead, then Christianity is proven wrong. Likewise, if it can be proven that the bible is inconsistent, unreliable, irrelevant or not the greatest book ever written, then Christianity is proven wrong.

Any other arguments are inconclusive when it comes to Christianity or any other religion.
"I think that God in creating Man somewhat overestimated his ability." Oscar Wilde
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Arguments for God Fail Specific Religions - by athoughtfulman - May 14, 2009 at 10:14 am
RE: Arguments for God Fail Specific Religions - by Giff - May 14, 2009 at 10:19 am
RE: Arguments for God Fail Specific Religions - by Giff - May 14, 2009 at 10:31 am
RE: Arguments for God Fail Specific Religions - by chi pan - December 15, 2011 at 6:37 am
RE: Arguments for God Fail Specific Religions - by frankiej - December 15, 2011 at 11:02 am
RE: Arguments for God Fail Specific Religions - by chi pan - December 15, 2011 at 4:13 pm
RE: Arguments for God Fail Specific Religions - by genkaus - December 16, 2011 at 2:25 am
RE: Arguments for God Fail Specific Religions - by Ace Otana - December 15, 2011 at 11:20 am
RE: Arguments for God Fail Specific Religions - by frankiej - December 15, 2011 at 4:14 pm
RE: Arguments for God Fail Specific Religions - by Jackalope - December 15, 2011 at 4:24 pm
RE: Arguments for God Fail Specific Religions - by LastPoet - December 15, 2011 at 4:27 pm
RE: Arguments for God Fail Specific Religions - by chi pan - December 16, 2011 at 1:18 am
RE: Arguments for God Fail Specific Religions - by Ace Otana - December 16, 2011 at 6:59 am
RE: Arguments for God Fail Specific Religions - by chi pan - December 16, 2011 at 2:44 am
RE: Arguments for God Fail Specific Religions - by chi pan - December 16, 2011 at 4:55 am
RE: Arguments for God Fail Specific Religions - by Jackalope - December 16, 2011 at 5:01 am
RE: Arguments for God Fail Specific Religions - by chi pan - December 17, 2011 at 11:49 am
RE: Arguments for God Fail Specific Religions - by LastPoet - December 17, 2011 at 1:28 pm
RE: Arguments for God Fail Specific Religions - by chi pan - December 19, 2011 at 2:46 am
RE: Arguments for God Fail Specific Religions - by chi pan - December 19, 2011 at 3:31 am
RE: Arguments for God Fail Specific Religions - by chi pan - December 19, 2011 at 10:27 am
RE: Arguments for God Fail Specific Religions - by LastPoet - December 19, 2011 at 10:44 am
RE: Arguments for God Fail Specific Religions - by chi pan - December 19, 2011 at 11:13 am
RE: Arguments for God Fail Specific Religions - by chi pan - December 21, 2011 at 10:35 am

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