(February 7, 2018 at 10:33 am)Drich Wrote:(January 31, 2018 at 12:52 pm)Grandizer Wrote: Let's see if we can make some sense out of this.
The Trinity, in the mainstream sense, refers to the one God who is three Persons, each being fully the one God, yet distinct from each other.
The Father is fully the one God.
The Son is fully the one God.
The Holy Spirit is fully the one God.
They are all one and the same God, yet three distinct Persons of God?
Of course, many of us are aware of the history behind how the Trinity doctrine came to be, but let's overlook that for the sake of argument and let's see how theists who are all about using logic can make logical sense out of this one.
Remember, the Persons of the Trinity are each the one and only God; they are not aspects/states of the one God (i.e., modalism) or three gods in one (e.g., as Mormons believe).
It's really really simple there sport.
The word "God" is a title. Not a name. As in:
God the Father
God the Son
God the Holy Spirit
Can you not see how three distinct persons can share the same title of God?
So how can three individuals be one?
Because again it is a title that three individual share. There is only one God is the same as saying there is only one government of the united states... Yet in that government it is made up of the executive branch, the legislative branch and the judicial branch. all equal parts of the government and all make the single government that directs the united states. we do not have three governments just because we can subdivide the title word government into three indivisual branches...
The problem here is how most people understand the use of the word God. Most of you don't get how it is used in scripture and therefore misuse it to the point where the simple trinitarian doctrine becomes a real abject mystery. one that can be answered by reclaiming the word God as a Title and not a individual deity's name.
Ok, that's fine, but neither you, nor Huggy, nor Steve, nor GC are Nicene Trinitarians. Huggy believes that God is strictly one being, and you, Steve, and GC believe in three "parallel" divine entities in one God collective. It's logical, I'll give you that (at the least, it's not visibly illogical). But the Nicene Trinity (the one described in such texts as the Catechism and adhered to by many learned Christians) does [seem to] defy logic.
