(February 7, 2018 at 11:18 am)Grandizer Wrote: Ok, that's fine, but neither you, nor Huggy, nor Steve, nor GC are Nicene Trinitarians. Huggy believes that God is strictly one being, and you, Steve, and GC believe in three "parallel" divine entities in one God collective. It's logical, I'll give you that (at the least, it's not visibly illogical). But the Nicene Trinity (the one described in such texts as the Catechism and adhered to by many learned Christians) does [seem to] defy logic.
I believed as Huggy did at one point too. it's not a pass or fail test. we are simply tasked to be faithful to what we can understand/carry.
After I took the "question everything approach to my faith my base understanding of everything change just enough to where everything now makes sense. 9 times out of 10 when we do not understand a principle of God is because a given principle of God conflicts with a "religious/non biblical explanation or understanding of God. and we in our pride tend to question the principle of God before we question our own understanding.
When I realized I did not even understand how the word God was being used in the bible, I was given it's true nature as being a title like President Lord or King. There is only one God (in contrast to how that word was used to explain a deity or even several demi deity over the sky a deity over the ocean a deity over emotion ect..) When the Jews said it or when Jesus said it that is what he meant. There is only one "king" "lord" GOD One God three parts. You can plug in every single explaintion found in the bible to the "title/not a name explanation and it make sense each and every time.
Where it does not make sense is when man in a doctrine creed or whatever other silliness he gives weight to tries to explain God with the same authority the bible has. You or rather those who worship God must ask them selves what God do I worship? the God of a given creed or catechism, or the God of the bible, each and every time the bible schisms from the explanation found in a creed or a doctrine.
There is a huge difference between worshiping the God of the bible and following the God of popular Christianity. NONE of the things pop Christianity requires to establish and maintain faith is a requirement found or shown maintain in the NT.
