RE: Before We Discuss Whether God Exists, I Have A Question
March 5, 2018 at 6:28 pm
(This post was last modified: March 5, 2018 at 6:43 pm by Jenny A.)
(March 5, 2018 at 6:10 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:(March 5, 2018 at 5:50 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Huggy, you have no evidence that a god exists, but go ahead. Make a fool out of yourself for another twenty pages. Why stop now?Keep on thinking that sweetheart.
(March 5, 2018 at 5:57 pm)Jenny A Wrote: Nope. Unless you can say that you want to believe there is no god if there isn't one, and believe in one if there is then there's no point in discussing it. If you really can truthful say that, then we can talk evidence and standard of proof.
But--- this idea is my way of dealing with people close to me who want to convert me because they love me, and whom I might hurt by debate. Consequently, it is meant to end discussion, as most theists really really want there to be a god.
I'll undoubtedly gone on shooting down purported proofs of god on this forum or elsewhere.
What does my belief have do with whether a God exists or not? What I propose is to measure evidence, for and against. If you can prove to me a God does not exist, then sure I'll no longer believe, but If I can prove to you that a God does exist, could you say you'd accept him?
Listen carefully. I am only willing to debate relatives who have a genuinely open mind. Having an open mind is not about what you believe. It's about whether you want to believe what is factually true, or even most likely to be true and not wanting to believe things that are false or very likely to be false. My relatives, like many other theists have an open mind about many things, but not god. In the case of god they make a virtue out of believing despite the evidence.
So I ask again, if in fact there is no god or god turns out to be very unlikely, do you want not to believe in god?
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.