RE: Before We Discuss Whether God Exists, I Have A Question
March 6, 2018 at 4:51 pm
(This post was last modified: March 6, 2018 at 4:59 pm by SteveII.)
(March 6, 2018 at 4:14 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: @Theists
For all these supposed miracles and healings god is doing, how come he’s never re-grown a limb? Limb reattachment is conspicuously missing from the long list of supposed medical miracles that defy modern medicine.
First, are you sure? Jesus put a man's ear back on. He was reported to have healed many lame and crippled people who were brought to him. Why would your exempt amputees from this list? How do you know there have never been the case of a lost limb being restored, ever?
Second, you could insert like a thousand things into that sentence. Why not any of those?
Third, your point is a very basic argument from silence.
However, in case you are interested in a discussion I will give you my thoughts on miracles in the NT versus miracles today:
Regarding the NT: These were big, purposeful (had context, taught lessons, proved a point), witnessed (many by large groups), and had theological significance (backed up Jesus' claim to be God, means of redemption. We do not see these types of miracles anymore. This is also a reason I am not going to argue if so and so's brain tumor disappeared as a result of supernatural intervention. These types are not miracles "addressed to the world" but rather personal events that in contrast to the NT events are small, for purposes that are not apparent to the everyone, and only have narrow (perhaps only personal) theological significance.
(March 6, 2018 at 4:34 pm)robvalue Wrote: Every time God intervenes he is patching a hole in his supposedly perfect plan. I like being a little bitch to God. He loves it too.
I dunno, I just... how can people seriously think the most powerful being that could ever exist is following them around doing magic tricks and locating car keys?
You would need there to be no free will to make that "perfect plan" argument. Everything bit of data and all of our intuitions points to the fact that there is, so...
Regarding "magic tricks and car keys"--I firmly believe that people over ascribe events/happenstance/coincidences to God--every day. So what? Does not change the possibility.
