RE: Before We Discuss Whether God Exists, I Have A Question
March 6, 2018 at 8:24 pm
(This post was last modified: March 6, 2018 at 8:46 pm by Whateverist.)
(March 6, 2018 at 6:14 pm)Succubus Wrote: If the supernatural were real it would be trivially easy to detect.
How does that work? What about the supernatural makes it detectable at all, let alone easily?
For that matter, what does 'supernatural' even mean?
(March 6, 2018 at 5:41 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Jenny A. raises the issue of intellectual honesty. Her question tacitly assumes that there are absolute truths, since if there were no absolute truths then one could be neither honest nor dishonest. I’ll leave it at that.
What function are you assigning to "absolute" here. "Truth" is correspondence between representation and what has been represented. How is the "absolute" kind different than that?
(March 6, 2018 at 5:54 pm)Jenny A Wrote: You are correct in saying that I want to have a true belief. That is the crux of it. Regardless of whether it is possible to know for certain, I still want my belief to be correct. Not everyone does. Which is why it is so hard to get Christians to say, "If god does not exist, I don't want to believe in him." It is my way of determing if you all really want to know. If you don't, then you can't discuss the evidence honestly.
I agree with this of course but for me, I'd be content if believers who admit they aren't willing to consider the possibility that 'god' does not exist, would at least admit frankly that they do not know what this 'god' is or how it gives rise to the warm fuzzies they find so convincing. It is the disconnect between the sorts of feelings which seem to evoke their belief, and the elaboration of the source of those feelings. How do you get from personal perception to the bible? What a mess.
