RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
March 8, 2018 at 9:04 pm
(March 8, 2018 at 8:58 pm)SteveII Wrote:(March 8, 2018 at 7:41 pm)Hammy Wrote:
3 doesn't follow. You'd have to add that God is the creator of the universe by definition as well. Otherwise God is just some immaterial being that exists, and there's no reason to believe he's required for the universe.
What are you talking about? First, 3 does not follow from any other premise--it is a premise. Second I included the reasons for 3 (from Occam's razor, PSR). Occam's razor because why would we posit two eternal beings (God and the universe) when only one is necessary and the Principle of Sufficient Reason gives us very good grounds to believe that anything that does not exist necessarily must have a reason for its existence.
The universe clearly exists, and God violates the PSR.
