RE: Easter, Bloody Easter!
March 10, 2018 at 2:22 pm
(This post was last modified: March 10, 2018 at 2:28 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(March 10, 2018 at 2:09 pm)chimp3 Wrote:(March 10, 2018 at 12:59 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: We value and remember the fact that He made the ultimate sacrifice and act of love, which is to lay down your life for another. Just as we do for war heros who die in battle, or otherwise people who get killed while rescuing another. But come on. That doesn't mean we "celebrate" the fact that He was tortured and murdered. What the Romans did to Him was an evil, horrible, sad thing, and is portrayed as such in the Passion of the Christ as well as in the Stations of the Cross. If you take the fact that we remember/value His willingness to die for us as "celebrating" His tortured killing, you are misunderstanding. Believe it or not, we aren't sadistic monsters.The Romans are only the scapegoats and so was Judas. The plan all along was to have him tortured and murdered. Prophecies from the Old testament. Your own words "His willingness to die for us". The speech in the garden of Gesthemane. Jesus was not a victim of the Romans, he volunteered. The sick narrative that the Jews killed him led to millions of Jewish deaths. There is so much sickness in this myth.
CL, you might not be sadistic , but this is a sadistic story. Call it what you want.
(March 10, 2018 at 12:46 pm)Fireball Wrote: True story- my youngest brother at about age 8 managed to get a whole package of Peeps (5? 6?) in his mouth all at one time.
Excellent Boy!
He didnt stop it from happening, as He could have, since He is God. That doesn't mean the people who did it weren't acting on free will and thus fully responsible for the evil deed. (It also doesn't mean that it's ok to kill other people after the fact who had nothing to do with it just because they are of the same religion as some of the people who did. This goes without saying.)
I don't see it as a story of sadism at all, and neither is that the intended Christian message of the story. The story is of self giving love, and dying for the sake of saving other people. You personally may take it as sadism, but that isn't the intended message being protrayed whatsoever.
Anyway, I'm glad you don't think we are sadistic. Thats good. I'm also glad I was able to clear up the misconception you had that Easter is the celebration of His death. Hopefully other things have been cleared up too.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh