Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic

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Things like the Kalam take observations from our local are and extrapolate them to all reality, even beyond what we can test. It then relies on them being 100% true, which can't possibly be verified. This is an attempt to try and "do science" without any of the hard work, or using the scientific method. It's a total failure.

It also simply asserts that the universe had a beginning, which has been established either.

If instead it's simply a load of tautological language, then it doesn't in fact tell us anything.