RE: Quick YEC Debunks
March 14, 2018 at 6:49 am
(This post was last modified: March 14, 2018 at 7:13 am by John V.)
(March 14, 2018 at 6:32 am)robvalue Wrote: So... all the evidence points to one thing, but perhaps something totally different is true and the evidence has all been planted to mislead us?
Well, sure. You could reject any conclusion you ever make using that logic, but you wouldn't get very far.
Not get very far? OK. It's not like I'm trying to recruit people.
If the point is that science says the universe is much older that 6,000 years - OK, no shit.
But the point of OP is that God wouldn't make the universe a certain way, and that position hasn't been supported at all. It's nothing but opinion.
(March 14, 2018 at 3:39 am)Mathilda Wrote: Yeah but why would your god set up a light show of non-existent objects that look billions of years away?
Because some people find it cool to look at, and maybe there's something to be learned from it.
Quote:Why would your god create a load of fossils and scatter them in the ground to give the appearance of an Earth billions of years old?
People can interpret fossils however they like. Some interpret them through a flood, others through an old earth (and wave away things like the Cambrian explosion that don't fit the narrative).
Quote:Because if he did do this then he is deliberately trying to trick us to send us to Hell and an eternity of agony.
How so? As has been noted, plenty of believers accept an old universe. Saving faith isn't based on such things.
(March 13, 2018 at 11:21 pm)Astreja Wrote: No rhyme or reason to it. With the YEC "light created on the way to Earth" hypothesilliness, a star that appears to be 100,000 light years away doesn't even need to exist. You could just rubber-stamp globs of light anywhere, one bunch for every stellar object, offset in such a way that it appears that the light has been travelling for a long time and originated from an object _____ light years away, rather than being generated closer to Earth.
So what?
Quote:Barking mad, I tell you -- Much less work to just let the universe be 13.8 billion years old and let the starlight travel on its own.
Yeah, and invent stuff we can't detect to make up 95% of the universe so the model works.