RE: Saudi Arabia: Snapchat and the Wahhabi defeat
March 15, 2018 at 5:00 pm
(This post was last modified: March 15, 2018 at 5:42 pm by WinterHold.)
(March 15, 2018 at 6:35 am)chimp3 Wrote: I made a "snap" judgement! But, your sectarian squabbles are of no concern to me. Regardless of your desire for easily available porn, you still advocate for a society that chops off body parts for theft.
I believe you don't quite understand what "sectarian" means, and hardly try to make the post say what it DOESN'T say.
Nobody even mentioned the Shiite/Sunni war, the post is discussing "the role of apps like Snapchat in the destruction of the customs and constraints of the Wahhabi religious institution in Saudi Arabia".
Please; don't put words in my mouth. I don't write sectarian flaming, and the OP is not about sectarian flaming.
As for the chopping of body parts, you also advocate for a society that buries thieves alive inside concrete blocks.
I would like to make a poll in U.S prisons: who wants a hand chop, but gets their freedom immediately afterwards?
You'll be surprised by the results.
(March 15, 2018 at 8:14 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: You are right. People want to be free, by nature they cannot be wahhabi. People would much rather snapchat than follow strict Islam, that is for sure. Eventually the internet will destroy all of islam.
I wouldn't say the internet will "destroy all of Islam"; but I would totally say that "knowledge" will destroy "ignorance" at anytime.
Islam itself is knowledge. Disbelief and the twisting of the original faith, which Islamic sects did, is ignorance. I don't think that people are born disbelievers; there's an inclination to believe at all time, the numbers of believers prove it in my opinion.
(March 15, 2018 at 8:34 am)tjakey Wrote: My take is that all people of good will, regardless of ideology, take heart when anyone or any group, using whatever means available and necessary, breaks free from oppression and institutionalized thinking. When religion is an option, where any person can walk away at any time without any repercussions imposed by those in authority, it is mostly harmless on any large scale. It was nearly inevitable that those living under the oppression of Islamic extremism would eventually revolt. That they use any technology available to aid in that effort is no surprise at all.
What will be interesting to see is how those hold on to their Muslim faith treat those who chose to walk away from it, seeing it as an ideology fundamental to their oppression. Will the faithful accept the decision or will they, in turn, strive to be the new oppressors?
I believe that the original faith itself prevented the killing of apostates, this verse of the Quran says explicitly:
Quote:Sura 2, The Quran:
( 256 ) There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing.
Yes; the question will be whether the religious would return to their source book; or choose Sunni/Shiite ways of terrorizing any voice of opposition.
