RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
March 17, 2018 at 7:41 am
(March 16, 2018 at 3:04 pm)SteveII Wrote: So this is even more interesting. There is no material cause to a novel or symphony (only an efficient cause). Both are abstract objects. Yet they can be a cause of their own once read or heard. You can be compelled to act by a novel or emotionally moved by a symphony. In the same way, ideas (conveyed through language) are not material and yet can have so much causal power. So not only is it possible that the immaterial is the efficient cause on the material (us), but it happens constantly.
Functioning brains produce novels and symphonies and of course brains are physical things.
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