(March 17, 2018 at 10:03 pm)Grandizer Wrote:(March 17, 2018 at 6:04 pm)Chad32 Wrote: They didn't call it obamacare decades ago when they supported it as another option for healthcare in Romney's time. And no, I'm still pretty sure Hillary would fit in closer to republicans than progressives. She fits in with establishment democrats because establishment democrats agree with republicans on a lot of things. Trade deals, military, and cutting taxes on the rich.
And Planned Parenthood, gun control, immigration, campaign finance reform? You're not taking a good look at all the policies she espoused before 2016. You're just looking at a subset of the policies that happen to support your bias, and in the process being very selective. One could do the same with Bernie Sanders as well, if they really wanted to.
And it's not like Hillary Clinton doesn't want to see single-payer health care for all be successfully implemented. I mean, I was with Bernie the whole time during the primaries, but even I could see she wasn't against this policy in principle.
I think Foreign policy, world trade, tax policy, and in the pockets of corporations aren't 1 to 1 with planned parenthood, gun control, and campaign finance in terms of importance, despite how the media treats them.
And that's assuming you buy the Clinton's being for Campaign finance reform given their history, which is a tough sell. On top of Bernie not being strong on guns.
I don't recall immigration histories.
In the end, when you talk Bernie-Hillary-Trump-Bush, I think you're looking at a square more than a line. They each have their own quadrant, and Bush and Hillary are on the same side of one of the Axes.
