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Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
Just as easily applied to "the universe", if we're allowing baseless conjecture (which, lol, ofc we are).  

The universe having "began to exist" in this sense is to say that there was some point at which it didn't look like this..and then it did..even if all of the stuff it's made of already existed in some other form.  It only "begins to exist" in that it now has properties x that match where before it didn't..or had some other properties.

IOW, the universe looks the way it does today for reasons.

Well..no shit. Granted granted granted granted................granted.
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RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic - by The Grand Nudger - March 20, 2018 at 11:03 am

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