RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
March 27, 2018 at 10:04 am
(This post was last modified: March 27, 2018 at 10:18 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Meh, I don't have any trouble with the conclusions of realism. Though I would suggest that you consider the conclusions of your statement above, that physical objects aren't about anything. Your own thoughts (and the words I'm reading now, about them) are physical objects..are they about something?
This isn't to say that you can't maintain whatever position you like on the matter (of matter
)....some other way, I guess? It's just that being "about something" is either trivially easy for physical objects (and if there are other x objects..them as well..ofc) or nothings about anything in any way discernible to you or I. Put another way, you and I both are working in the same garden. Burning it down will starve you just as quickly as it might starve me, but why do that..what's that all about?
I do have sympathy, though..it's not difficult to find some instance of an atheist who seems to be arguing against some realist in this or that context - I'm of the opinion that most of the time they're simply arguing with -your- position on some matter..and that's hardly surprising, since you seem to think that realism and goddism are interchangeable. Similarly, hard reactions to realist positions I argue with other atheists often take the form of their opposition to some goddist conflation of a realist position.
This isn't to say that you can't maintain whatever position you like on the matter (of matter
)....some other way, I guess? It's just that being "about something" is either trivially easy for physical objects (and if there are other x objects..them as well..ofc) or nothings about anything in any way discernible to you or I. Put another way, you and I both are working in the same garden. Burning it down will starve you just as quickly as it might starve me, but why do that..what's that all about?I do have sympathy, though..it's not difficult to find some instance of an atheist who seems to be arguing against some realist in this or that context - I'm of the opinion that most of the time they're simply arguing with -your- position on some matter..and that's hardly surprising, since you seem to think that realism and goddism are interchangeable. Similarly, hard reactions to realist positions I argue with other atheists often take the form of their opposition to some goddist conflation of a realist position.
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