RE: Atheism is impossible, I don't see how life can be created naturalistically.
September 2, 2011 at 5:42 pm
(This post was last modified: September 2, 2011 at 6:02 pm by Diamond-Deist.)
(September 2, 2011 at 11:51 am)frankiej Wrote: Well, lets just chill to this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yot2Z-Uyu...re=related
Not bad I did listen to it twice, this is better though.
This is my lay on the beach with a cigarette and beer song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYkVHFP53Do
(September 2, 2011 at 12:54 pm)theVOID Wrote: Cells were once inanimate, or there are both animate and inanimate cells? I doubt that for a number of reasons, for one all cells can die and death is something that can only happen to a system that was once alive, not only that but cells are considered the fundamental unit of life and the root of the field of biology which is specifically the study of life. Given both those points I don't know how a cell could possibly be considered inanimate.
I doubt that the NASA scientist was lying or that he was mistaken, it is more likely that you misunderstood him.
I have it on DVD so no I was not mistaken, program called "How life began", I've got it in my hand right now, it's a good viewing.
Cells did not formulate alive it took thousands of years of combination elements, they then formed a cell wall and a chemical reaction took place , it settled then ta da life.
What I've always kept an eye on is that if you leave a pile of bricks on the floor, if you come back in a million years you don't expect to find a house do you? it takes intelligence to make things happen.
This whole world is coincidence after coincidence with life fighting for it's existence, it had a will, will does not come from inanimate objects .... think about that.
(September 2, 2011 at 12:54 pm)theVOID Wrote: I specifically said that I could not account for it and that while we know how some of the constituents of cells can be produced via naturally occurring chemical processes we do not know the full process. Like I said I'm not well versed in biology beyond the fundamentals, if you want more detail you'll have to ask someone else.
Cool that's solved, you, I, we don't understand how life began, we know the mechanics but not the first spark ..... that's what the NASA guy said.
(September 2, 2011 at 12:54 pm)theVOID Wrote: If you are arguing on his behalf then you are defending the position that "Atheism is impossible" given that we can't explain certain aspects of abiogenesis, this is both an argument from incredulity AND something that necessitates that a deity is the alternative - seeing as not-atheism is by definition theism.
You simply can't escape that conclusion.
Ok I can play that, as a deist I personally think one of two things either God started the Universe if i am to believe the Big Bang theory (lets not go there) but in all honesty I think that's the easy option and a childish one, "there was nothing then kaboom there was life" ...... no I don't think so.
In essence to help the OP's cause, for him to give up on any notion of God you would have to show him undoubtedly that something can come from nothing.
Until that time Nicholas you may confidently walk the path of the righteous with your head held high and take no notice of these disbelievers!!
..... I will revise those links you put out, it better not be about abiogenesis I know this already from the programme.