The most horrifying journey, this is what doubting 'everything' does.

[Mystic]

Your inability to believe in the blisteringly obvious is a comment on your religious indoctrination, and nothing more.

"belief in praise and value doesn't make something praiseworthy or valuable, it's circular reasoning to justify value by our belief in value"
"we can't subjectively praise anything without belief in some objective existence of praise/value"

I would say now, and I realize this, is witnessing value in oneself and others, cannot be just belief or want for there to be. It has to vision of value. And if it's a mystic nature (goodness/value/love) and it's connected to the divine, then is it's reality.

You cannot deny it's reality, it's connection to the source, and it's source, and say you see this light we clothe ourselves by from the light, we can believe it to.

But believers are right. You aren't justified in belief in it.

It's a mystic connection that connects us all and embraces us all, and witnesses the reality of the mystic nature of love, goodness, and praise, that we have to accept, and attachment to the connection is goodness.

Not to deny it's reality, disfigure it, and than say, well you see these little bits and pieces, we have of it, it means you don't need God to ascend towards higher levels of goodness, and you don't need God to be good, and you can be good without God, and all this none sense you guys be talking.

We use goodness as a proof of God, but really, it's God that is the proof of goodness being real, and we should thank him for it!