RE: The most horrifying journey, this is what doubting 'everything' does.
April 1, 2018 at 9:07 pm
(This post was last modified: April 1, 2018 at 9:10 pm by Mystic.)
(April 1, 2018 at 9:05 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:(April 1, 2018 at 8:38 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Explain me what an axiom is, and how it possibly is a source of knowledge. I would like to hear it.
wikipedia Wrote:An axiom or postulate is a statement that is taken to be true, to serve as a premise or starting point for further reasoning and arguments. The word comes from the Greek axíōma (ἀξίωμα) 'that which is thought worthy or fit' or 'that which commends itself as evident.'[1][2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axiom
The term has subtle differences in definition when used in the context of different fields of study. As defined in classic philosophy, an axiom is a statement that is so evident or well-established, that it is accepted without controversy or question.[3] As used in modern logic, an axiom is simply a premise or starting point for reasoning.[4]
An axiom is a starting point for reasoning. You actually can't reason at all without at least one axiom.
I know what it is. I use to argue by this all the time.
Except it really comes down to "we all rely on for furthering out tree of reason, but don't know how to justify it, but it seems true, so we hold on to it as clear and evident".
(April 1, 2018 at 9:05 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:(April 1, 2018 at 8:38 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Explain me what an axiom is, and how it possibly is a source of knowledge. I would like to hear it.
wikipedia Wrote:An axiom or postulate is a statement that is taken to be true, to serve as a premise or starting point for further reasoning and arguments. The word comes from the Greek axíōma (ἀξίωμα) 'that which is thought worthy or fit' or 'that which commends itself as evident.'[1][2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axiom
The term has subtle differences in definition when used in the context of different fields of study. As defined in classic philosophy, an axiom is a statement that is so evident or well-established, that it is accepted without controversy or question.[3] As used in modern logic, an axiom is simply a premise or starting point for reasoning.[4]
An axiom is a starting point for reasoning. You actually can't reason at all without at least one axiom.
Is a loaded question, a fallacy or not.
I don't believe it is, but philosophers tell me it is.
When they try to justify it, it's kind of funny really... they begin to justify with all the fallacies they refute lol.
Sure we can be reminded of things we know, but what is knowledge?
Even properly basic knowledge, properly basic axioms what are they?
I say they are vision, but you have to justify the perceiver. Without justifying the perceiver, and without knowing who you are, you can't separate what are axioms and what are false assumptions.
Like the material worlds existing is an axiom we rely on, but I am sure it's false. There is no such thing as a material substance, only spiritual substance, everything speaks and has consciousness.
