RE: Atheism is impossible, I don't see how life can be created naturalistically.
September 3, 2011 at 9:31 am
(This post was last modified: September 3, 2011 at 9:42 am by Captain Scarlet.)
Quote:What I've always kept an eye on is that if you leave a pile of bricks on the floor, if you come back in a million years you don't expect to find a house do you? it takes intelligence to make things happen.How is this analogy useful? We know that bricks and houses do not contain the necessary chemicals to initiate a reaction in which they can form self replicating molecules let alone cell walls. On the other hand we know the necessary chemicals were around during early earth conditions given the chemical compositions of the rocks laid down at that time. These chemicals are the precursors to life, but we only have hypothesis around what happened next. To assume there was a spark however may miss the point, there's no point in looking for the instant at which not-alive becomes alive. It's like tearing apart that house looking for the architects inspiration (to use you analogy for a second). We recognize the state when it's clear, but you won't be able to reduce it to find the boundaries, because there aren't any and indeed those boundary conditions may fluctuate wildly. I can give more detail on this if you wish.
Quote:This whole world is coincidence after coincidence with life fighting for it's existence, it had a will, will does not come from inanimate objects .... think about that.Really? Does a bull have a will, do bacteria, do lizards, chickens, etc. You are trying to anthropomorphize all life. Most life is not conscious nor self aware, only higher forms through a product of higher brain function. Other than that life pretty much survives on instinct only, but equally not everything with an instinct is life. For example you could assign an instinct to a virus or a prion in that they search out specific weaknesses, bind to specific cell components and start doing their stuff. But a virus or prion is non life. Again you are searching for a black and white world and in reality it does not exist.
As for coincidences it appears to me that all possible outcomes for the universe, galaxy, solar system, earth, us are vastly improbable but given the universe is so big improbable things happen all the time. The sun for example is powered by quantum tunneling events of individual hydrogen atoms to enable fusion. It is a near impossible event for any 2 hydrogen atoms but given there is so much hydrogen in the sun, it happens all the time.
"I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence"...Doug McLeod.