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The most horrifying journey, this is what doubting 'everything' does.
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RE: The most horrifying journey, this is what doubting 'everything' does.
I know what they are proposed to be I'm not mixing them. In my deist days, I would use the notion of axioms a lot.

One refutation is that language is dynamic process we learn and is given to us at a layer of abstraction, but we seek to the know details over time.  Abstraction of what color is for example to a baby is going to be different to the level of abstraction to a well educated woman or man.

It's not rocket science to realize we grow in understanding, and nothing is known but we experience it.

Language and true arguments, and it's form is not agreed upon by humanity... Nor is any properly basic axiom agreed to be an axiom by all humans.


Quote:If a thing can be conceived as not existing then its essence doesn’t involve existence."

And of course it wrong. Nothing can be conceived of not existing, the default is existence, and existence encompasses everything and witnesses it itself, before the creation of things through his words. Non-existence is impossible at all levels, Existence is the reality, and it encompasses all type. I made an argument about this before. My head is tired so I forget I formed the argument to prove this. Something about if non-existence as a default is irrational, so than is any non-existence when we reflect, for any reason of non-existence in total to be irrational possibility of a default, so then is true of any level of non-existence, which means true existence is absolute and encompasses all existence, and existence cannot increase.

So if that is an axiom, and it's wrong... and it seems intuitive... I mean.. who decides what it is.

I believe the opposite to that axiom. So when it comes to numbers, God has representation somehow in every number and every number is him somehow before the world came to be. And numbers relate back to him with levels of abstraction. Same with colors. Same with shapes.
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RE: The most horrifying journey, this is what doubting 'everything' does. - by MysticKnight - April 3, 2018 at 9:28 am

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