(April 5, 2018 at 8:51 am)robvalue Wrote:(April 5, 2018 at 8:36 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Oh yeah I agree, in 99.99% of all cases in daily life a 'strong atheist' will behave with as much regard to God as a 'weak atheist.' It's just in discussions having accurate, clear labels would be nice for shortcuts. I reject both claims of "there is a god(s)" and "there isn't a god(s)" because I don't think either claim has met its burden of proof. We just don't have a distinct term for someone who claims the latter, and we slot in "strong atheist" which just muddies the waters.
Yeah. Even though some people say "just agnostic", which I consider is incorrect for a weak atheist (second definition), it does at least differentiate. Maybe strong atheists could be "nongodbois".
Really, someone making a counter claim has gone beyond atheism so it could easily have its own name, even though it's a subset of atheism in general.
I prefer to send the question back and say, "Try again with words that mean something". Atheism is giving theism too much credit as a proposition, that it even deserves an answer.
Sure, but saying "I'm just an agnostic" doesn't make any real sense, if you're asking them the simple question "do you believe it's true that a god exists?". Agnostic simply means they don't think it can be known - but they're not being asked about knowledge. Just seems that the people who say "I'm just an agnostic" are simply averse to the label "atheist" for whatever reason. And the messiness of the term atheism can give them a reason.
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