RE: Dumb As A Bag of Hair
April 20, 2018 at 8:32 pm
(This post was last modified: April 20, 2018 at 8:34 pm by WinterHold.)
(April 20, 2018 at 12:52 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:No; MK. God -judging by reading other verses in the Quran-God has control over everything, knows everything before even creating it.(April 18, 2018 at 1:49 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: You picture God as a very weak being; don't you think?
Quite pathetic TBH.
A pedo slaver who doesn't know what people are going to do. What a God you believe in.
Was God then deceiving Adam with insincere advice for him when he said:
وَإِذْ قُلْنَا لِلْمَلَائِكَةِ اسْجُدُوا لِآدَمَ فَسَجَدُوا إِلَّا إِبْلِيسَ أَبَىٰ {116}
[size=undefined][size=undefined][Shakir 20:116] And when We said to the angels: Make obeisance to Adam, they made obeisance, but Iblis (did it not); he refused.[/size][/size]
فَقُلْنَا يَا آدَمُ إِنَّ هَٰذَا عَدُوٌّ لَكَ وَلِزَوْجِكَ فَلَا يُخْرِجَنَّكُمَا مِنَ الْجَنَّةِ فَتَشْقَىٰ {117}
[size=undefined][size=undefined][Shakir 20:117] So We said: O Adam! This is an enemy to you and to your wife; therefore let him not drive you both forth from the garden so that you should be unhappy;[/size][/size]
إِنَّ لَكَ أَلَّا تَجُوعَ فِيهَا وَلَا تَعْرَىٰ {118}
[size=undefined][size=undefined][Shakir 20:118] Surely it is (ordained) for you that you shall not be hungry therein nor bare of clothing;[/size][/size]
وَأَنَّكَ لَا تَظْمَأُ فِيهَا وَلَا تَضْحَىٰ {119}
[size=undefined][size=undefined][Shakir 20:119] And that you shall not be thirsty therein nor shall you feel the heat of the sun.[/size][/size]
فَوَسْوَسَ إِلَيْهِ الشَّيْطَانُ قَالَ يَا آدَمُ هَلْ أَدُلُّكَ عَلَىٰ شَجَرَةِ الْخُلْدِ وَمُلْكٍ لَا يَبْلَىٰ {120}
[size=undefined][size=undefined][Shakir 20:120] But the Shaitan made an evil suggestion to him; he said: O Adam! Shall I guide you to the tree of immortality and a kingdom which decays not?[/size][/size]
I won't say he "failed"; never. That is my point: he created Adam, Eve & Satan with previous knowledge that we will fight.
Look at this verse, telling what happened before the creation of Adam & Eve:
Quote:Sura 2, The Quran:He knew all along, and willed it too. He created Adam, created Satan, created the tree, created the fruit, made the scenario possible. That's why Satan felt betrayed:
( 30 ) And [mention, O Muhammad], when your Lord said to the angels, "Indeed, I will make upon the earth a successive authority." They said, "Will You place upon it one who causes corruption therein and sheds blood, while we declare Your praise and sanctify You?" Allah said, "Indeed, I know that which you do not know."
Quote:Sura 7, The Quran:
( 12 ) [Allah] said, "What prevented you from prostrating when I commanded you?" [Satan] said, "I am better than him. You created me from fire and created him from clay."
( 13 ) [Allah] said, "Descend from Paradise, for it is not for you to be arrogant therein. So get out; indeed, you are of the debased.
( 14 ) [Satan] said, "Reprieve me until the Day they are resurrected."
( 15 ) [Allah] said, "Indeed, you are of those reprieved."
( 16 ) [Satan] said, "Because You seduced me, I will surely sit in wait for them on Your straight path.
( 17 ) Then I will come to them from before them and from behind them and on their right and on their left, and You will not find most of them grateful [to You]."
Satan was seduced.
God knew all along. He is in control all along.
My point is what God said about himself in another verse:
Quote:Sura 7, The Quran:
( 54 ) Indeed, your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and earth in six days and then established Himself above the Throne. He covers the night with the day, [another night] chasing it rapidly; and [He created] the sun, the moon, and the stars, subjected by His command. Unquestionably, His is the creation and the command; blessed is Allah, Lord of the worlds.
The command is to him; destiny and fate too. So everything is under his knowledge and control, we act in the context of his knowledge. That's because he is a creator; he is not a man. He is a God.