porn and women

[Catholic_Lady]

Believing demons exist, and believing mentally ill people are possessed by demons, are 2 different things.

Watching/making porn and believing women are sexual objects are two different things.

Right. But you said this (my bold):

And some people believe, that women are sexual objects. So if you get to tell people that voices in their head might be real, even though that can worsen their potentially dangerous condition, why can't misogynists indulge their fantasies, disregarding the potential harm it may cause to some individuals?

....My subsequent posts have been in response to that, and what I've been doing is explaining why believing women are objects is not comparable to believing demons exist.

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Violent rapey porn doesn't "tell" anyone anything, neither did I claim It did. From what it sounds like, I would assume this type of violent porn depicts women getting abused and assaulted. I'm still unclear as to what your actual position is. Do you think watching this type of thing would prevent a person with sexually violent tendencies from rape? Because thats what im arguing against. If you agree with that, then we are in agreement. I'm still unsure what your position on this is.

In relation to this I think there's too many variables to consider.

Porn definitely gives people ideas and influences people.  On the other hand I think has more to do with deeper reasons like how people are raised as to if they would actually rape a person based on the ideas porn gives them.  
I think statistics relating to rape and porn are pretty vague and come with variables like different times, different technology to catch rapists, the amount of rape being reported.

I watched all kinds of violent rape role play porn but only ever indulged in acting out rape role play and violent sex with the women who requested that. It's a pretty common fantasy for women to have in my experience, goes pretty much in the same ball park as being tied up and restrained.  It is pretty common in porn because the demand for it is pretty common.

I would agree with the bolded, btw. I'm not saying rape porn is some sort of sole reason that causes someone to rape. But I do absolutely disagree with the notion that rape porn actually helps prevent people who have violent sexual tendencies from raping. If anything, I feel it would serve as yet another negative influence on an already messed up person, not help them.

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Violent rapey porn doesn't "tell" anyone anything, neither did I claim It did. From what it sounds like, I would assume this type of violent porn depicts women getting abused and assaulted. I'm still unclear as to what your actual position is. Do you think watching this type of thing would prevent a person with sexually violent tendencies from rape? Because thats what im arguing against. If you agree with that, then we are in agreement. I'm still unsure what your position on this is.

I don't know whether or not porn prevents people from acting out their fantasies in real life. It seems, that porn helps  preventing many people from having any real sex at all. But I haven't seen any studies on that subject and I'm curious what do you base your opinion on. Is it just your personal view, based on the feeling that porn is "icky"?

Ok.

And to answer your question, my opinion is just based on what seems to make logical sense. If Bob has sexually violent tendencies, it would logically follow that indulging in rapey porn depicting women getting sexually abused and assaulted would only fuck him up even more. At the very least I certainly don't think it would help him, as a couple people here have claimed.