RE: Bare minimum for belief in Christianity.
May 4, 2018 at 10:53 pm
(This post was last modified: May 4, 2018 at 11:03 pm by Wyrd of Gawd.)
(May 4, 2018 at 8:29 pm)ignoramus Wrote: Guys, THAT other ID thread got me thinking.
Let's say you don't want to deny any scientific facts. About anything. (Why would you anyway?)
But you still need that extra life that baby Jesus has on offer?
Is that possible? Call it "caffeine free diet Christianity" or whatever...
In reality, almost all Christians use modern technology, believe in medical cures, disregard everything in the bible that conflicts with their modern "good person" lifestyle etc,
so their beliefs are strictly of a philosophical nature anyway.
Can these people still be called Christians? If THEY call themselves Christians, then they ARE Christians. Who are we or other Christians to judge them?
Every Christian cherry picks, so there must be lots of pots and kettles about. Especially between competing schisms.
EG, belief in heaven might sound silly but is it technically breaking any rules of the cosmos?
Maybe shoving your beliefs in the gaps of science technically does not need or involve any mental gymnastics ...because ...well, we just never know, do we?
I think the god of the gaps WAS invented for theists to sleep easy at night. Just like in a court of law, YOU CAN'T PROVE ME WRONG, THEREFORE NOT GUILTY of believing anything false.
Like most religions, Christianity is based on the resurrection of the dead. The dead do not rise except in fairy tales and movies. As Paul said, if the dead not not rise then Jesus didn't rise. We know for a fact that the physical dead do not rise. Therefore, by Paul's own criteria the Jesus myth is worthless.
(May 4, 2018 at 8:39 pm)Khemikal Wrote: The minimum belief is a belief in Christ. It's a title, not a name. All else is negotiable. -CHRIST-ians, not luddites. Though, obviously, there's some overlap in practice.
Almost everyone except atheists "believe" in Christ (Yeshua/Jesus). Muslims believe in him as a prophet. Jews claim that they killed him using 5 different methods of execution. But not one single person in human history has ever had faith in him to do what he said anyone who had faith in him could do. So he lied or he's imaginary.
