(October 4, 2010 at 6:34 am)padraic Wrote: Hi Mihiki won't welcome you yet due to the woo content of your posts;I'm hoping you're a Poe.
There is no evidence for existence of the spiritual.
There is no evidence of reincarnation, . . . etc.
The man calling himself Tuesday Lobsang Rampa (all of whose books I've read,beginning in 1963) was a fraud,. . . and more etc.
PS: I also studied Kriya Yoga with a teacher,and can meditate in using Kriya or Hatha Yoga. Meditation is not evidence of the spiritual. The techniques I was taught can be learned in an hour.Then it's practice.
Namaste padraic,
Nor sure what a woo is or a Poe?
True. I do my research and know all this. However, the Spiritual can be seen as the Wonder and that is how I like to look at the world and hope I never lose the sense of the Wonder or the Spiritual, however I wish to perceive it. And having had a Christian upbringing and having experienced faith, I know that it can bring a sense of wonder and support to the travails in one's journey. One can lose faith but one doesn't have to lose the sense of Wonder. Some do, I suppose, or they may never have had the Wonder to lose.
The experience of meditation is natural to many and I have seen people in a meditative state who didn't know that that was what they were in. I remember seeing a fellow in a long house in Sarawak lying next to a caged squirrel and just starring at it. He didn't move when called, he was so entranced. I think he was taking a Spiritual or Wonder moment after a long day's sojourn in the felled forest to plant paddy and it didn't seem to do him any harm.
As a teacher I teach my wards how to meditate and they come to request time before a recess or days end to relax in the state and I've met past students who continue to find moments for this form of awareness beyond the measurable.
M. TLR gave me a sense of wonderment when I was a child and for that I shall be ever thankful. That he was a crazy right-brained thinker, run amok with metaphor, fazes me not in the least. His heart was in the right place, he tried something that gave him more pleasure than hewing wood, and he created wonder for many young lads. Such is blessed, if I may use such a word on this forum.
I had an old adopted grandpa who would sit with me and show me how to put old clothes pegs back together for grandma or how to sharpen the blades to a push lawn mower, or how to hammer a nail into an old stump. Such were struggles for a small lad, but in moments we shared a meditative moment of wonder and I have never forgotten.
A metaphor. We can all define it but do we all experience it. For those who don't, the sense of the Spiritual or of the Wonder would be like noise in the wind and possibly disconcerting. My sister is such and can't tell one tune from another and gets no pleasure from music and I don't see any metaphor in that. And no manner or matter of practice is going to change it.
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