(September 6, 2011 at 12:41 pm)QuestingHound08 Wrote: I'm curious--since our science extrapolates (on a type of human faith) that the world we see is objectively measurable and understandable, and that our minds are equipped to know it not only instinctively, but speculatively...doesn't our entire system of Science kind of presuppose an ordered universe, with something faintly like a person ordering it (since it's intelligible to other persons)?
THere is an assumption here that nature itself could not produce an ordered universe without the need for the intervention of spooks - which you have not supported
However - the more basic question is - as more and more is found out about the universe - it is clearly LESS ordered than you say - read this article
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/sci...09feb99_1/
showing the the universe is far less ordered and far more violent that has been previously claimed
BUT at the more basic level - humans themselves are not born reasoned and responsible for their own actions. SO - they remain innocent until they reach the age of reason and responsibility - which the catholic stupidity puts at age SEVEN. I tend to beleive that a seven year old cannot do something within reason that would deserve the death penalty - but let us go with that.
23 % of the population of the earth today is under 7 years old - it would have been higher in ancient time because people did not live as long as they do today.
It is estimate that at least 5 million people lived on earth at the supposed time of the great flood - so more that a MILLION were children and infants that could not have done something to deserve to be drowned - their deaths in the supposed flood would simply be MURDER - pure and simple. Any first born children in the supposed passover would also be murder.
THAT you choose to bow down and worship and adore the worst mass murderer of innocent children and infants is a reflection on YOU and your own devil worship. Intelligent people reject that for obvious reasons
