(May 13, 2018 at 5:51 am)Mathilda Wrote:(May 13, 2018 at 12:03 am)CDF47 Wrote: It is the atheist that believe in magical blind undirect processes created everything.
How many times do we have to tell you that atheists generally don't believe this. Nor do they generally believe that natural processes are directed.
How is telling someone that they currently believe something that they don't and explaining why it's wrong supposed to convince them of anything?
It would be like to trying to convince you that the christian god does not exist by asserting that you believe that he is the son of Thor even though you don't and explaining why Thor couldn't exist. Can you see why this is not going to achieve anything?
So if you want to learn how to debate, first start by dropping the strawman arguments.
Classic projection, really. The theist has a set of dogmatic beliefs therefore so must the atheist. The reality is that atheists believe whatever they want outside of theism.
Atheism is simply the affirmative claim that one simply has no belief in any deity. It says precisely nothing about what any individual atheist may or may not believe about anything else. Nevertheless, the god-botherers assume that somehow atheism is a set all in lock step like themselves in an exercise akin to herding cats. They are unable to conceive of the notion that there is not some central dogma instructing them how and what to think. Why not? Because that is the daily experience of the god-botherer, from birth, they are instructed and brainwashed to believe that they have no free will, that morality is to be found in some holy book not in themselves, that their very own thoughts are unworthy and should be suppressed at all cost, that their dogma is paramount.
And they self describe as "sheep" in a "flock" guided by a "shepherd".
It is to laugh.