RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 15, 2018 at 10:22 am
(This post was last modified: May 15, 2018 at 12:19 pm by Anomalocaris.)
(May 15, 2018 at 6:47 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:(May 14, 2018 at 11:59 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Scientists are not finding that in these molecular machines. They are finding that they are irreducibly complex or can serve as different machine types under different variants. See post above.
The whole point is that irreducibly complex systems cannot have evolved by natural means because any system containing fewer parts would not function, and failing to function, the organism would not survive to be able to reproduce itself to eventually evolve the irreducibly complex function. If you admit that the organism could survive with a degraded irreducibly complex system, and thereby offer a path by which the irreducibly complex function could have evolved. By admitting that an irreducibly complex system had a functional precursor, even though the functions are different, you've essentially gutted the concept of irreducible complexity.
You're so bad at this that you don't even understand your own talking points. All that comes out of you is a river of nonsense.
(May 15, 2018 at 12:43 am)CDF47 Wrote: LOL...I was wrong about the flagellum and the pump being irreducibly complex but the system below it is irreducibly complex. Not sure of any other errors.
It has been well demonstrated that even in the case where any reduction to an organ prevents it from fulfilling what seem to be its observer to be its only function, the organ in fact has served or can still serve other functions that might be mistakenly judged secondary. Example of this includes the bird like wings in therapod dinosaurs, and the carapace eye on certain deep sea crustaceans. So to prove something to be irreducible complex, not only must one demonstrate the organ can not serve its present function if reduced from its present form, one must also demonstrate it could not serve any other conceivable functions at all in any of its possible evolutionary paths.
Since it is essentially impossible to deduce without evidence all possible evolutionary paths leading up the present organ, Demonstrating some feature to be irreducible complex in the biological sense is a logically impossible task. The basis of irreducible complex is the assumption that if one is not clever enough to conceive of a feasible evolutionary development path, then none could exist. In other words It presuppose where the observer is ignorant, there is no knowledge to be had.
So irreducible complexity is not wrong. It is not EVEN wrong. It is not a proposition sufficiently formed to be even theoretically capable of being assigned the status of right or wrong. It is a pure useless bullshiting piece of smoke screen for creationists.
Which is perfectly fitting, as the creed of creationism assumes ignorance is king.
The god of Christian is nothing but ignorance wrapped in a golden cloak, assigned personalities that are projection of the most flaccid and the most unmentionably disgraceful aspects of common psychology, and stood up as a figurehead and scarecrow in the way of any discovery that might discomfort the small, needy and conceited minds.