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DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 15, 2018 at 12:31 am)Khemikal Wrote: Minor aside, but I;ve only ever seen one ID'er snap out of it on the boards.  It was kind of sad as we watched the realization that he;d been too credulous for his own good play out in text form, and then the bastard left shortly afterwards, lol.

(May 15, 2018 at 12:30 am)CDF47 Wrote: So we found 3 variants using parts from the flagellum.  What is the fourth machine?  The one under the pump is irreducibly complex if there is not a fourth machine.  Not all the way down to the RNA world.

Below is a list of some molecular machines. Some are irreducibly complex:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecular_machine
Which ones?

That third machine you mentioned must be irreducibly complex if there is nothing under it.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Quote:As of now
As of never .

Quote:That third machine you mentioned must be irreducibly complex if there is nothing under it.
Both false and fallacious
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 15, 2018 at 12:32 am)Tizheruk Wrote:
Quote:So we found 3 variants using parts from the flagellum.  What is the fourth machine?  The one under the pump is irreducibly complex if there is not a fourth machine.  Not all the way down to the RNA world.
That statement makes no sense 


Quote:Below is a list of some molecular machines. Some are irreducibly comple

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecular_mac
[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecular_machine][/url]Not a single one

Quote:That is a straw man.
Nope 

Your essentially saying if it can't be explained. God exists .

The machine under the pump is irreducibly complex if there is no other machine below it.  I forget the name of it.  I just closed a page I was reading about it.

Some or most may be.

Agree to disagree.

Straw man.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Quote:The machine under the pump is irreducibly complex if there is no other machine below it.  I forget the name of it.  I just closed a page I was reading about it.
Fallacious 


Quote:Some or most may be.
None


Quote:Agree to disagree.
Nope


Quote:Straw man.
Accurate statement .
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 15, 2018 at 12:35 am)CDF47 Wrote:
(May 15, 2018 at 12:31 am)Tizheruk Wrote: Assertions

As of now.

ROFLOL

What an trumpesque worm.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 15, 2018 at 12:36 am)Khemikal Wrote:
(May 15, 2018 at 12:31 am)CDF47 Wrote: That is a straw man.
-and now you;ve been wrong twice in as many posts about logical fallacies.  Like I said..wrong about literally everything.  I wonder if the acknowledgement and correction thread will be 200 pages long, too?

LOL...I was wrong about the flagellum and the pump being irreducibly complex but the system below it is irreducibly complex.  Not sure of any other errors.

(May 15, 2018 at 12:37 am)Tizheruk Wrote:
Quote:I said I wouldn't ignore it but whatever.
I don't believe you 


Quote:What machine is below the pump, like the pump (Type III Transport System) is below the flagellum?
This statement still does not make sense 


Quote:Agree to disagree.
Nope 


Quote:It depends if there is a conspiracy.
No you'll make one up to preserve your beliefs 

Quote:Not about the examples.  See the post above that one.
Did it changes little.

Quote:Agree to disagree.
Nope

OK

Nevermind

N/A

No, I won't.

N/A

N/A
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 15, 2018 at 12:40 am)CDF47 Wrote: Agree to disagree.

/The End.

(This is your chance, people. Take it.)

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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 15, 2018 at 12:38 am)Tizheruk Wrote:
Quote:As of now
As of never .

Quote:That third machine you mentioned must be irreducibly complex if there is nothing under it.
Both false and fallacious

Disagree

Truth be told in that post.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Quote:That third machine you mentioned must be irreducibly complex if there is nothing under it.
That's not actually how "musts" work...but..no, for the third and final time, protein transports also have precursor systems in mechanical and chemical translocation.  I know you have google.  Why don;t you do yourself a favor and look it up?

Now....at some point I'll run out of answers....and then the internet will run out of answers..and then the guys with silly letters in front of their names will run out of answers.  "I don;t know" is not a synonym for irreducible complexity, last I checked.

So I;ll ask again, why do you think there are any things x when you can;t provide a single example of x?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 15, 2018 at 12:42 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(May 15, 2018 at 12:35 am)CDF47 Wrote: As of now.

ROFLOL

What an trumpesque worm.

The machine under the pump is irreducibly complex so it is no longer just an assertion.
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