(September 7, 2011 at 7:33 pm)little_monkey Wrote: I'm not sure if the universe is completely ordered. Take the surface of the sun, or that of Jupiter, there's lots of chaos there. A lot of the matter in the galaxy is just nebula. Boil water, and see how frenetic the vapor escapes. Right now, our theory says that the universe is accelerating, for how long, we can't say. Plus, QM says empty space is full of quantum fluctuations. None of that tells me that the universe is ordered. Maybe parts of it, but all of it? I don't think so.
All good points.
From certain viewpoints, time and distance scales, you can find appearance of order. Even where apparent order can be observed, it's probably nothing more than a deterministic outcome based on entropy in the initial state.
Put another way, the beauty and order we see in the spiral arms of the Pinwheel Galaxy is nothing more than the laws of physics acting on non-uniform distributions of matter over cosmological time-scales. Similar effects apply from the quantum level on up. Probably.
