RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
May 30, 2018 at 10:58 am
(This post was last modified: May 30, 2018 at 11:18 am by Simon Moon.)
(May 29, 2018 at 6:42 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:(May 29, 2018 at 6:01 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Yes, those books are equally as horrible as the Quran. Tu quo que fallacy much?
"Other religious texts are just as violent as mine! So there!".
How does that make your religious text good?
Here's the difference between modern Christianity and Judaism (for the most part) compared to Modern Islam, though. Modern Jews and Christians, with few notable exceptions, no longer carry out the horrible actions in their books. Muslims do
From a Pew study in 2013, 350 MILLION Muslims support violent Jihad. Even though the vast majority of Muslims do not, that is still a lot of extremists that can get ahold of weapons.
None of those reasons describe my position.
My dislike for Islam (and Judaism, Christianity and Hinduism) is that it is a horrible operating system to be running on human minds. It has so many bugs built in, that Muslims believe are features.
It is great that Christianity and Judaism have been dragged, kicking and screaming the entire way, into modernity. Islam, in many parts of the world, is still living in the 7th century.
What is the horrible part in the Quran? I want verses that are horrible to you.
Here you go.
Verse 9:111, Quran 9:5, Quran 9:29, Quran 65:4, Quran 33.50, Quran 4:34, Quran 22:19-22, Quran 8.12...
That's just a start.
And I don't care that you may have some apologetics ready to explain these (and the 100s of other barbaric Quran passages) away, but I don't really care. The fact is, that millions of Muslims take those passages literally, and those are the ones I care about.
The fact that you, or other Muslims, may have a more 'sophisticated' reading of those passages, that do not lead to abhorrent behavior, does not matter. Because there's enough Muslims, who read them literally, to threaten civilization.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.