(September 9, 2011 at 8:51 am)StatCrux Wrote: "My interpretation, please correct me if I'm wrong, is that things which are objective can be studied and measured in a science experiment whereas subjective matters are weighed out in philosophy discussions. Science is the study of the objective universe where philosophy is the debate of subjective matters. "Abstractions including mathematics are only exist within their own frameworks. Take them out of their frameworks and there is no separate concrete instantiation in the universe. Science does axiomatically presuppose certain things to be true. The thing about it though is it tends to work and we tend to live our lives every day as if it does work, whereas evidencing the supernatural always fails and we never live our lives expecting supernatural intervention. We therefore have powerful inductive reasons to believe the truth of science, but none at all to believe in the supernatural.
Would you say that mathematical truths exist? Are they objective using your definition? For example, science presupposes mathematics and Logic, some truths are abstract and conceptual but still remain objectively true, not all objective truths can be "measured in a science experiment". pax vobiscum
"I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence"...Doug McLeod.
