RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
June 2, 2018 at 1:55 pm
(This post was last modified: June 2, 2018 at 2:01 pm by Mystic.)
Anyways, the two statements HAVE NOTHING to do with exception. They are two different angles.
And whether this generation is aware or not, same words can mean different things from different angles and context and holistic understanding is always needed in that regard.
In Quran, sometimes "all things" are used without including God and some times, it includes God. Language is meant to convey, not to dissect by a sharp knife.
Logical rules of Plato weren't known by most people speaking.
And a lot of so called fallacies are not even fallacies, but, just over-dissecting of language.
This generation will be lost on how to approach ancient texts at this rate. Even if this is true of language today, which it's not, you have no proof that it's true in all generations.
I gave the example of angle statements that contradiction is shown to convey, "You did not throw when you threw but God threw."
And again, "he forgives all sins" is from the Angle, all sins are possibly forgiven if the right steps are taken.
The angle "He doesn't forgive the association" means if not repented for and not abandoned and right steps are not taken.
And whether this generation is aware or not, same words can mean different things from different angles and context and holistic understanding is always needed in that regard.
(June 2, 2018 at 1:55 pm)paulpablo Wrote:(June 2, 2018 at 1:52 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: You are wrong about English. People make general statements all the time. That is why you need lawyers for laws and interpretation for clarification.
I didn't say people don't make general statements all the time. I said the word "All" means without exception.
If I say I forgive sins without exception. I don't forgive that sin. It's a contradiction because the word "All" means without exception and yet in the next sentence I'm saying there is an exception. There can't be an exception and be no exceptions.
In Quran, sometimes "all things" are used without including God and some times, it includes God. Language is meant to convey, not to dissect by a sharp knife.
Logical rules of Plato weren't known by most people speaking.
And a lot of so called fallacies are not even fallacies, but, just over-dissecting of language.
This generation will be lost on how to approach ancient texts at this rate. Even if this is true of language today, which it's not, you have no proof that it's true in all generations.
I gave the example of angle statements that contradiction is shown to convey, "You did not throw when you threw but God threw."
And again, "he forgives all sins" is from the Angle, all sins are possibly forgiven if the right steps are taken.
The angle "He doesn't forgive the association" means if not repented for and not abandoned and right steps are not taken.
