What is your problem with Islam? Think about it

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Anyways, the two statements HAVE NOTHING to do with exception. They are two different angles.

And whether this generation is aware or not,  same words can mean different things from different angles and context and holistic understanding is always needed in that regard.

If a statement contains the word "all" it has something to do with exception in the sense that it negates any possibility of exceptions relating to the statement. 

If I make one statement that contradicts the other by one saying there's an exception and the other saying there's no exceptions, that's not a different angle.  Why would god write a book containing points of view from different angles anyway?  It's just a contradiction.  Speaking from someone reading it in English that is.

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Anyways, the two statements HAVE NOTHING to do with exception. They are two different angles.

And whether this generation is aware or not,  same words can mean different things from different angles and context and holistic understanding is always needed in that regard.

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I didn't say people don't make general statements all the time.  I said the word "All" means without exception.

If I say I forgive sins without exception.  I don't forgive that sin.  It's a contradiction because the word "All" means without exception and yet in the next sentence I'm saying there is an exception.  There can't be an exception and be no exceptions.

In Quran, sometimes "all things" are used without including God and some times, it includes God.  Language is meant to convey, not to dissect by a sharp knife.

Logical rules of Plato weren't known by most people speaking.

And a lot of so called fallacies are not even fallacies, but, just over-dissecting of language.

This generation will be lost on how to approach ancient texts at this rate.  Even if this is true of language today, which it's not, you have no proof that it's true in all generations.

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I gave the example of angle statements that contradiction is shown to convey, "You did not throw when you threw but God threw."

And again, "he forgives all sins" is from the Angle, all sins are possibly forgiven if the right steps are taken.

The angle "He doesn't forgive the association" means if not repented for and not abandoned and right steps are not taken.

"He doesn't forgive the association"  Means the action of association is not forgiven.  Not that it is forgiven in some circumstances. Again just speaking as someone reading that statement in English.