What is your problem with Islam? Think about it

[Mystic]

It depends on the Angle and context.

For example "God created all things" a person might argue, did he create himself?

But that person is an idiot. Language wasn't spoken to suit the desires of people seeking faults like this generation.

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Anyways, the two statements HAVE NOTHING to do with exception. They are two different angles.

And whether this generation is aware or not,  same words can mean different things from different angles and context and holistic understanding is always needed in that regard.

If a statement contains the word "all" it has something to do with exception in the sense that it negates any possibility of exceptions relating to the statement. 

If I make one statement that contradicts the other by one saying there's an exception and the other saying there's no exceptions, that's not a different angle.  Why would god write a book containing points of view from different angles anyway?  It's just a contradiction.  Speaking from someone reading it in English that is.

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Anyways, the two statements HAVE NOTHING to do with exception. They are two different angles.

And whether this generation is aware or not,  same words can mean different things from different angles and context and holistic understanding is always needed in that regard.

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In Quran, sometimes "all things" are used without including God and some times, it includes God.  Language is meant to convey, not to dissect by a sharp knife.

Logical rules of Plato weren't known by most people speaking.

And a lot of so called fallacies are not even fallacies, but, just over-dissecting of language.

This generation will be lost on how to approach ancient texts at this rate.  Even if this is true of language today, which it's not, you have no proof that it's true in all generations.

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I gave the example of angle statements that contradiction is shown to convey, "You did not throw when you threw but God threw."

And again, "he forgives all sins" is from the Angle, all sins are possibly forgiven if the right steps are taken.

The angle "He doesn't forgive the association" means if not repented for and not abandoned and right steps are not taken.

"He doesn't forgive the association"  Means the action of association is not forgiven.  Not that it is forgiven in some circumstances.  Again just speaking as someone reading that statement in English.

I would speak to a person who studied linguistics or studies law, and they will tell you all about exceptions and exceptions to exceptions....

I am going to leave it at that.

I speak English too. You are talking none-sense.

And again, this is nothing to do with exceptions, but different angles.. "he forgiven not the association" means the type of association they were doing, if they leave it and repent from it, they are no longer associating and will be forgiven like so many other verses clarify.

Honestly, when Atheists claim they honestly asses divine books, this is one reason I Can't take their claims seriously.