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What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
(June 2, 2018 at 1:29 pm)paulpablo Wrote:
(June 2, 2018 at 12:29 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: Nobody claimed that Arabic is immune to contradiction. It's a normal language that can mean ramblings or logical meanings.
As an official place that "gives an exception" to a general rule; the examples are too many that I don't know which to choose:



One verse contained "the general statement".
The other contained "the exception".

You are expected to read the whole Quran, with the contexts it gives; a belief cannot stand without taking the whole book into consideration. In other words; you cannot say that God "forgives all sins" without saying "except associating others with him". It has nothing to do with Arabic.

Cherry picking is not allowed with the Quran; it's a whole book.

That's why it's a contradiction.  The general statement contains the word "All."



synonyms:
completely, fully, entirely, totally, wholly, absolutely, utterly, outright, thoroughly, altogether, quite, in every respect, in all respects, without reservation, without exception
"he was dressed all in black"





God can't forgive sins without exceptions with exceptions.  

If you know the way English works and synonyms then you'd 100% understand this and this isn't to insult you because I know you don't speak English as a first language so you'll just have to trust me that it is a contradiction in English to say "All sins are forgiven"  And then to say "This one sin isn't forgiven."  It doesn't matter about which part of the book it's in, or if you're taking the book as a whole or anything like that.

The only time your argument might work in English is if someone said something like "All the pies were tasty except this one."  Then you're immediately clarifying the exception in relation to the word "All" in the same sentence.
So this is either to do with some kind of language barrier or you're purposefully misunderstanding the way exceptions and contradictions work.

Then; associating other Gods with Allah is not a sin. It was categorized to be something else; far far more terrible than a sin:

Quote:https://quran.com/31/13?translations=

Sahih International

Sura 31, The Quran:
(13) And [mention, O Muhammad], when Luqman said to his son while he was instructing him, "O my son, do not associate [anything] with Allah . Indeed, association [with him] is great injustice."

It's crossing the sin to another category far worse; and that is " great injustice ".

I apologize, but I withdraw my previous explanation, I forgot about this verse. If we put this into the equation, we'll understand that all sins are forgiven, but a " great injustice " would never be forgiven.
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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it - by WinterHold - June 2, 2018 at 6:18 pm

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