(June 4, 2018 at 4:33 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote:Oh that's the fallen world Blah blah blah . Or since the fall the universe is designed for death Blah blah blah(June 3, 2018 at 11:57 am)CDF47 Wrote: I am saying a designed universe would be fine-tuned like the one we find ourselves in.So your claim is that this entire universe is fine tuned just for us by some benevolent deity?
It is so fine tuned for us that the overwhelming majority of it will actively kill us.
We don't even have to go to the universe, most of this planet will happily kill us without any concern whatsoever.
Either your god is an abject moron who couldn't design a paper bag, or is a malevolent entity who hates us and wants to kill us but is so useless that it cannot even manage that.
And yes he has in fact argued that .
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