(June 6, 2018 at 6:43 pm)CDF47 Wrote:(June 6, 2018 at 5:39 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Not an answer to the question. You've just replaced DNA with a description of it, not demonstrated that "digital information that programs the construction of highly sophisticated advanced nano molecular machines," cannot arise naturally.
The system makes a 747 jumbo jet look like child's play. Have you ever seen a 747 construct itself?
(June 6, 2018 at 5:42 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Would you like to reverse your earlier comments, then, and claim that computers have minds? Or perhaps you'd like to assert that paper airplanes are similarly not mindless..on account of them having been created by the same human beings? (though..I thought we already discussed this?)
That would be disastrous for your supernatural argument..but you;re certainly free to shoot your own foot if you absolutely feel the need to do so.
I get the feeling that you are stretching it deep to try to get me to talk in circles. There is a mind even behind a paper airplane and computers,.... Computers themselves due not have a mind.
(June 6, 2018 at 5:49 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Just to be entirely fair and transparent..I realized the moment that you started down the "it;s code" line you'd painted yourself into an impossible corner.
The thing you're referring to as instructive of a god is an entirely natural mindless thing producing the very thing you take to be informative. Even if you try to dial it back (as you have)..then we see another natural (this time mindful) thing producing not only the exact thing you take to be instructive.....but also the means by which -it's- produced.
Either of us could qualify as the "intelligent designer" of the products. Maybe then you'd claim that the computer isn;t intelligent, though....but then a mindless unintelligent thing is producing the exact thing you take to be instructive.
Do you see how it starts out bad..and only gets worse?
No, I see a lot of spin and confusing irrational mumbo jumbo.
!Fact! Jupiter's moon Ganymede, is larger than the planet Mercury.
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