(June 17, 2018 at 10:57 pm)yragnitup Wrote: Not only Muslims are disconnected with reality, they are even disconnected with their own stupid cult.
In Islam, the very 1st & the father of all Satan is Iblis and Iblis was a jinn who supposedly was disobedient to Allah. Angels (made from Light) & Jinns (made from Smoke) are also supposedly different creations of Allah. Satan as a fallen angel is a Christian fairy tale not Islam. Or maybe Muhammad didn't copy it correctly when he was concocting his cult.
You claimed angels are made from "light", but that opinion is only based -and only exists- in the Hadith books, and has no basis in the Quran. Not a single verse across the Quran say that angels are made of light.
See this verse:
Quote:Sura 17, The Quran:
Sahih International
(61) And [mention] when We said to the angles, "Prostrate to Adam," and they prostrated, except for Iblees. He said, "Should I prostrate to one You created from clay?"
God didn't say to "Satan/Iblees"to prostrate, rather he told "the whole group of angels", and Iblees/Satan was one of them, that's why the word "except" is used. He had the "rank" of an angel; he was an angel.
In another verse, his "race" is mentioned:
Quote:Sura 18, The Quran:
Sahih International
(50) And [mention] when We said to the angels, "Prostrate to Adam," and they prostrated, except for Iblees. He was of the jinn and departed from the command of his Lord. Then will you take him and his descendants as allies other than Me while they are enemies to you? Wretched it is for the wrongdoers as an exchange.
One verse is telling us his rank (angel), the other verses is telling us his race (Jinn).
Even humans can be angels:
Quote:Sura 43, The Quran:
Sahih International
(61) And if We willed, We could have made [instead] of you angels succeeding [one another] on the earth.
My belief is below my username; I don't believe in the Hadith books as a source of faith. So....
