DNA Proves Existence of a Designer

[LadyForCamus]

If everything needs a creator, as the KCA asserts, then the question "what created god?" requires an answer describing the meta-creator, and the it's creator and that being's creator and so on in infinite regression.

It is the only possible answer to the KCA, turtles all the way down.

Their needs to be a first cause of intelligence.  The universe does not have a mind.  It took a mind to create the universe.  I believe this mind is the primordial one.

---

You see if god is a thing then he created himself because he falls in the region of a "thing" and you said god created "every thing".

Now if god is not a thing then you have conceded that god does not exist.

Either way you lose.

No, you know I said God is the primordial mind.  All else is created by Him.

---

And if it's only some things needing creators then what's to say that the universe is not part of the set which do not? Or humanity?

---

Four hundred and one, more like!

Because the universe does not have an intelligent mind.

---

That's right because the universe has no intelligence of itself.

---

LOL.  I’m reporting you.

Reporting me for what?

---

Yah, if the only thing in the category 'things that don't begin to exist' is God, then it's just another term for God and the premise of the Kalam is just rewording of 'everything needs a cause, except God', and we're back to special pleading.

It pushes the problem to an intelligent mind.

I guess it will have to remain mystery, just like your silly god. 😉