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What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
(June 21, 2018 at 12:28 am)yragnitup Wrote: Firstly no where in the Quran that says Angel is a Rank and both Jinn & humans can be an Angel.
Secondly Allah already banished Iblis from heaven where Adm & Eve were. Whether he was reprieved to enable him to misguide mankind not is not the point. How could he be still lurking in heaven and whispering to Adam etc? He already out of it. So are there 2 Garden of Eden ? One in heaven and one on earth?

You can conclude that angel is a rank from the context of the verses, as I have suggested in post #335.


As for the banishing, the verse didn't say that "God kicked Satan out". It said that "God told Satan to get out, and cursed him":

Quote:https://quran.com/38/77-87
Sahih International

Sura 38, The Quran:

(77) [ Allah ] said, "Then get out of Paradise, for indeed, you are expelled.


Said. Not Kicked.
God "ordered Satan" to get out. "Ordered". But Satan disobeyed. and God let him.

Satan literally agreed to let his jealousy and hate for Adam eat him alive. That's why God didn't kick him out of paradise yet; he just "ordered" him to get out. If Satan obeyed God and never sinned; none of this would've happened.

Does this ring a bell?
Yes; you. Didn't God tell humans not to sin? but just like Satan, we commit the sin.

That's the moral of the story.



Quote:As for calling me a bitch, you can keep making personal insult all you want. It only shows your frustration. I did not call you stupid. I called Islam & Quran stupid and will call any other religion the same if I think so.

Exactly. You have an OCD concerning Islam and you need to treat it.
Have you ever considered joining the extreme right in Europe or America as a keyboard Jihadist?


Quote:Surah 2 Verse 30-33

And (remember) when your Lord said to the angels: "Verily, I am going to place (mankind) generations after generations (khaleefatan) on earth." They said: "Will You place therein those who will make mischief therein and shed blood, - while we glorify You with praises and thanks and sanctify You." He (Allah) said: "I know that which you do not know." And He taught Adam all the names (of everything) , then He showed them to the angels and said, "Tell Me the names of these if you are truthful."They (angels) said: "Glory be to You, we have no knowledge except what you have taught us. Verily, it is You, the All-Knower, the All-Wise."He said: "O Adam! Inform them of their names," and when he had informed them of their names, He said: "Did I not tell you that I know the Ghaib (Unseen) in the heavens and the earth, and I know what you reveal and what you have been concealing?"

Here Allah trying to prove to the angels He knows more than them. He teaches Adams some names in private & asks the angels to tell Him what are the names He taught Adam. When the angel said they don't know, Allah says this is the prove He knows more!!?? Totally dumb & funny. Shouldn't it be the other way around? If Allah want to prove to the Angels that He is all knowing, the Angels should have been asked to teach some names to Adam in private & Allah discloses them right?


There are other interpretations -you obviously ignored symbolism and its extended use in the Quran's style and chose to pick the childish, ignorant interpretation-, but one interesting opinion is that teaching Adam the names, is actually something so huge and so complicated like the evolution of the human race itself from monkeys who can't talk to men who can pronounce words.

But you and your likes never choose opinions like that. You only bash.


Quote:Its even funnier Angels were right about their prophesy about mankind will make mischief and shed blood!!
Making it more complicating is the word "khaleefatan" which means inheritor. Because of this there are some Muslims believe the since Adam is the khaleefatan, it means he was not the first man & that were people on earth before him!!. What a mess!!

I never heard about "men before Adam". I heard about "Jinn before Adam".
And yes. Evolution states that before the modern human, there was a chain of ancestors.
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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it - by WinterHold - June 27, 2018 at 7:24 pm

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