History thread [split] from "New Rule - Promoting Terrorism"

[Pat Mustard]

Absolutely right.  FDR asked for sacrifices of American civilians that Hitler would not dare to do.  Bad memories of the post-WWI food riots, I guess?

I often wonder what would have happened if Hitler had not declared war on the US.  On Dec. 8 the country was unified in its hatred of Japan and the desire for revenge and most people didn't give a flying fuck about Germany.  FDR did not even make an attempt to get congress to declare war on Germany when he addressed congress.   I imagine at some point an incident would have been manufactured but its hard to imagine what that would have been.  I asked my dad about it one time and he said that every one he knew after Pearl Harbor wanted to kill Japs.  He ended up in North Africa and Italy so he didn't get his wish.

Overlord wouldn't have happened. The war in Europe would have been c 2 years longer and Soviet forces would have overrun most of the continent.

The suimple fact is that Germany effectively lost the war on 30/01/1933.